Friday, February 16, 2007

The Global Power Grab



I guess it never really mattered what science said or says. My research so far has shown that many scientists have very real data-based doubts regarding the nature of co2 and it's effect on the globe. Some say that Bush and oil companies are behind these doubts, but I have found that to be highly unlikely. Why? Because the money behind finding global warming to be man made so far outweighs what any oil company or anyone does it is not even comparable. Furthermore, many scientists who have been accused are making public statements that they are being misrepresented and challenging people to check the facts. the pressure to produce pro-co2-is-evil-for-the-temperature-of-the-world-and-it-is-made-by-man research is incredible. if you want the research money, you will come up with this conclusion. That's how it works.

Unfortunately, there are many scientists who are being smeared and squelched. Paid for bias might be true in some cases, but in may it can be proven that their accusers lie when saying they are bought off (the tidy thing about money is it can be traced, or not). Men whose reputations are without stain, whose data is published, who critiques are plain for all to see, scientists from MIT, from major universities throughout the world, etc. And many are claiming that they themselves have seen the politics that is forcing the scientific world to silence them.

But it doesn't matter. no one is listening. Why not? Power. That's the answer. politicians know when to jump. REad this:


Global leaders reach climate deal

John McCain
The climate debate is over, said US presidential candidate John McCain
A meeting in Washington of global political leaders has reached a new agreement on tackling climate change.

Delegates agreed that developing countries will have to face targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions as well as rich countries.

The informal meeting also agreed that a global market should be formed to cap and trade carbon dioxide emissions.

The non-binding declaration is seen as vital in influencing a replacement for the Kyoto Protocol, correspondents say.

The forum's closing statement said man-made climate change was now "beyond doubt".
for the rest of the story click here.

It is plain for all to see. Here are politicians, not scientists, declaring the debate over. And now they want policy. Policy always gives power to someone. Who do you think the policy makers will give it to? And, what researcher who wants a job, a nice house and big money will dare oppose? The ones that do are being oppressed by the machine.

Here's some interesting facts I dug up while searching.

> The temperature of the globe is not conclusively proven to be caused by CO2. indeed, two graphs in the UN report, if placed upon one another show that CO2 rises just after the temperature goes up, not before, casting doubt on the causes.

> CO2 is not polution. It is a natural safe product of exhaling and oxidation. Essentially, it is plant food.

> CO2 is produced naturally in very large amounts in several ways. In our divided world it is hard to find people agreeing on what those amounts are, since that information would cast great doubt on the effects of man-made co2 on the atmosphere. There is enough confusion out there, and that is probably the intent of many. However, it should be noted that volcanos put out millions of tons of CO2 as well us tons of sulfer dioxide (so much so that in 2004, and msnbc report pointed out that mt st helen was the number 1 poluter in Washington state, due to the sulfur emissions). Forest fires far out distance cars, as can be guessed, at producing co2. underwater volcanic activity, earth quakes, methane from cows, all produce great amounts of co2. This isn't necessarily bad. whether co2 is harmful to the earth is still a debated topic among scientists who publish their data (though not among journalists). One interesting fact about co2 from a geologist at the energy department at penn state: when a tree dies, as it decays, it realeses all the co2 into the atmosphere that it absorbed during its life.

> America has more forest land now than it did in 1776. this is not a major deal, but deforestation in America does not increase co2 levels in the atmosphere (though it does in some other countries that don't care for the land as we do).

> changes in the temperature of the sun, many scientists think, is a better explanation for global temperature increase. this is a cyclical change, of course.

> before the measured global warming period discussed today, the earth had an era that was a centuries-long global cooling period, though this is rarely mentioned in journalist reports and left out of many scientific data sheets used by journalists and government agencies. Why this matters? Because we are dealing with many years and patterns of cooling and warming that go on for thousands of years.

> Ice in the Antarctic is increasing at an alarming rate, just as ice is decreasing in the arctic. In fact, historical data shows that the amount of snow on a mountain or ice in a particular region varies greatly. the problem is that measuring such things is difficult for the change is so slow that centuries are needed to see patterns.

> WE have been measuring the earth's temperature since 1880. All other measurements are extrapolated data based on studies of physical evidence in the earth. That does not discount it, but it does show that an earth this old is not easy to measure by the humans hanging around on it these last hundred years.

These are summary statements. There is much data and many voices and much for me still to learn and I will keep at it. Something that has been helpful to me is to ignore journalists when they report science and look for data beneath stories.

One thing I am certain of: The jury is still out on whether man has any significant effect on the temperature of the planet. INdeed, the hints that have come out of the UN report (it hasn't even come out yet in its final form, and the journalistic world speaks of it as if it has)include claims that there is nothing man can do to reverse the trend of a warming globe. some say it is "too late". I say, if we can't effect it in the future, why are we so sure we effected it in the past?

Another item of note: underdeveloped countries far outweigh Western nations in the Northern Hemisphere for amount of CO2, and non-co2 polutants, that are pumped into the atmosphere. That wasn't the case in the 1800's of course, but it is now. For this reason, policy that holds the west to different standards than the southern hemisphere and Asia and Eastern Europe is not only unjust, but runs the risk of punishing the peoples of the earth, by crippling the better economies of the earth, which will do nothing to help the poor, as third world nations have a way of starving their own people, while Western nations try desparately to continually fill the gap.

I'm still in a learning mode, but I know this. Making sweeping change in policy based on the theory that man-made co2 is heating up the globe is foolish. people who think their government is protecting them by such measures are tricked. This is a power-grab, plain and simple.

It is so easy for politicians to jump on the bandwagon now. AT heart, politicians in a democracy are cowards, choosing as habit whatever they think wins public opinion, willing to leave true conviction behind. I guess that is a necessary evil to have a free people. people elect, so politicians put their fingers in the wind to see which way the people are blowing. but they are also agents, with less than innocent agendas at times. they will influence public opinion as they see fit if it suits their purpose. Global warming is not a moral issue to them, it is a vehicle to gain power. the people are sheep, easily led.

my friends, don't discount the dissenting voices. listen to them. check their data. you might be surprised.

more to come.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sort of a side note. Every year, emission controls get stricter for engine manufacturers. Take a diesel truck, that has had considerable changes in the last 10 years to reduce sulfur (use low sulfur fuel, shortening the engine life due to less lubrication) emissions. Fuel economy on new commercial trucks is lower than it was 10 years ago for that fact. We're depleting oil resources faster, at more expense, to save the planet. Is it me, or does that make no sense at all, since well, you know, we're running out of oil (scare tactic) ya know?

Mike Greiner said...

wow. I didn't know that regarding the gas mileage situation. thanks for mentioning it.

you know something that could change things in an area we don't live (we being me and you, Andy), is get rid of tolls in congeted areas.

In North Jersey, NYC, there are so many tolls and so many cars that gridlock happens. tens of thousands of cars sit in traffic so they can pay tolls at rush hour.

of course, the government solution: easy pass--who wouldn't like that? take money while you drive by!

but that is only a partial solution and in many toll plazas it doesn't help at all, causing longer lines at the other lanes.

and, 40% of all the money raised goes to cover administration toll costs. the other 60% can't be going to the road, by the way, because if it did the Gardenstate parkway and the tunnels and bridges into NYC would be paved with gold.

there's a practical environmental improvement that could be done easily. just abolish the tolls. yes, you might have to add a tax revenue source from somewhere else (I bet a 1 cent a gallon gas tax would be cheaper for NJ and NYC drivers by far, and would have almost no admin costs and cover the bills), but think of the change in the quality of life that would be instant.

Here's another exciting thing: the hydrogen cell is doable. we know this is true for they have made it. We just need to find an inexpensive way to transfer get the fuel in a usable form. of course, the fuel, being hydrogen, is water in its crude form! just a matter of time.

Also, another policy matter, instead of forcing car makers to raise their mileage standards to unreasonable levels, offer a tax credit to buyers who buy cars that get better gas mileage (either than their present car or perhaps above a certain minimum). If there was a 2000 dollar tax credit, that would help a lot in a decision to go with a more efficient car. Also, why not offer financial incentives to car companies who sell increasing numbers of small cars? Instead of trying to force change (doesn't work well and steals freedom) better to reward good behavior.

well, I'd better stop typing. probaby no one is reading this anyway.

val said...

The alarming fact with the environmental regulations and controls is that they will permeate into so many areas of our lives that we can not even predict because we are just at the beginning of this "movement".

I read an article in our Leader Times this week that new albuterol inhalers for asthmatics are being phased in due to a government mandate.

Three out of four of my children are asthmatic and use inhalers . The inhalers they use to rescue them during an asthma attack use chlorofluorocarbons to propel the medicine and is now considered partially responsible for depleting the ozone layer.

Their inhalers all need to be replaced with an inhaler that uses an environmental friendly propellant.

The catch is, though, the cost of the new inhalers are now more than double that of the old ones. Go figure.

I use two per child, one to keep at school, because they are not allowed to transport the inhalers, and one to keep at home. I am blessed to have health insurance but there are many, many who are now forced to pay double for a medication that they already have that works perfectly fine for them, but now must make an expensive change.

We have no way of knowing in exactly how many ways, in how many areas of our lives are we going to be regulated based upon theories!

Mike Greiner said...
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Mike Greiner said...

Val, you make a great point.
indeed, our past dealing with the ozone hole should help us here. What was once seen as a crisis is often talked about as an "oops." Well, maybe we weren't exactly right about what causes the hole, if it is natural, how harmful it is, etc

In the meantime, all of our Air conditioners cost more and a black market has been created to smuggle freon in from Mexico. All this due to dubious science. Well, that's not fair. it is not the scientists pushing this. There are idealogues and interest groups being used by legislators to increase control in our lives. the frightening thing is we are forced to trust people who constantly prove to be untrustworthy: politicians.

Anonymous said...

Mike you don't have to remind me about Jersey's tolls, or New York's, or Mass's, the list goes on. But Jersey is the worst. No offense to you or any friends that live in the state, but I can say that I literally HATE New Jersey, every part, top to bottom. (I suppose Union's cobblestone streets are more scenic when you're out for a stroll though) That's saying nothing against the people, Jersey has awesome deli's (so does Connecticut though). Where is my topic related point? Yeah, didn't have one :)